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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #8 cover
Cover: Kevin Eastman

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #8

Jan 1986 · Mirage · 1.50 USD; 2.10 CAD
📊 ~7,415 copies sold its debut month
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★ 1st appearance — Renet
About this Issue

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #8 (July 1986) marks the first crossover in the series' history, pairing Eastman and Laird's Turtles with Dave Sim's Cerebus the Aardvark in a story that remains one of the most celebrated collaborations of the 1980s independent comics movement. Beyond the crossover itself, the issue introduced three characters who became pillars of the franchise's supernatural mythology: Renet (the impulsive apprentice Timestress), her formidable master Lord Simultaneous, and the exiled demonic villain Savanti Romero — together establishing the entire time-travel corner of the TMNT universe. The story was the first to push Eastman and Laird's world decisively into magic and mysticism, expanding the series' tonal and narrative range in ways that subsequent comics, animated series, and films would revisit for decades. Its influence on TMNT storytelling is traceable from Tales of the TMNT #7 through the 2003 and 2012 animated series, both of which adapted its central premise, and to IDW's continuity, where Renet returned as the same character from the Mirage run.

writer, artist, inker Kevin Eastman · writer, artist, inker Peter Laird · writer, artist, inker, letterer Dave Sim · artist, inker Gerhard · letterer Steve Lavigne · cover Kevin Eastman

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Raw (VF) $11
CGC 9.8 · 272 in census $115
CGC 9.6 · 311 in census $90
CGC 9.4 · 182 in census $47
CGC 9.2 · 115 in census $47
CGC 9.0 · 84 in census $36
CGC 8.5 · 49 in census $31
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CGC 8.0 · 28 in census $31
CGC 7.5 · 24 in census $28*
CGC 7.0 · 9 in census $26
CGC 6.5 · 6 in census $26*
CGC 6.0 · 5 in census $23*
CGC 5.5 · 1 in census $20*
CGC 5.0 · 2 in census $20*
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History

The issue was co-written and drawn by Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird, with Dave Sim handling all of Cerebus's dialogue, lettering, and artwork, while Sim's longtime background collaborator Gerhard rendered the medieval environments once the story shifted to 1406 A.D. — producing a distinctive visual split within the same pages. The collaboration grew out of mutual respect between the two camps of the mid-1980s black-and-white indie boom, during which both TMNT and Cerebus were flagship titles. An originally planned back-up story by Ryan Brown (Rion 2990) was dropped from this issue due to production complications and never appeared elsewhere. Decades later, Peter Laird — fearing Dave Sim would withhold reprint permissions — commissioned a Cerebus-free alternate version of the story, 'The Paradox of Chudnovsky,' written by Stephen Murphy and drawn by Jim Lawson in 2007; Sim ultimately granted permission, the original was reprinted in the 2009 Collected Book Volume 1, and the alternate became supplementary rather than a replacement.

Trivia · 8 facts

  • First appearance of Renet (full name Renet Tilly), the teenage apprentice Timestress to Lord Simultaneous, who goes on to serve as the Turtles' recurring time-travel ally across Mirage, IDW, and animated continuities.
  • First appearance of Lord Simultaneous, the Time Master who oversees the 79th Level of the Dimension of Null-Time and wields the Sceptre of the Sacred Sands of Time.
  • First appearance of Savanti Romero, a former apprentice of Lord Simultaneous who was transformed into a demonic being and banished to 1406 A.D. as punishment for attempting to usurp his master's power; his name is a deliberate tribute to horror filmmakers George A. Romero and Tom Savini (and is even misspelled 'Savini' on page 19 of the issue).
  • Crossover appearance of Cerebus the Aardvark (from Dave Sim's Aardvark-Vanaheim series), the Turtles' first-ever crossover with another publisher's character, with Sim personally writing and drawing Cerebus within Eastman and Laird's pages.
  • The story — retroactively titled 'Team Up with Cerebus' — is a 45-page adventure set across 1986 New York City and 1406 A.D., making it one of the longer single-issue stories in the early Mirage run.
  • Due to the inclusion of a character owned by another publisher, IDW Publishing required Dave Sim's permission to reprint the issue in their collected editions; it has since appeared in TMNT: The Collected Book Vol. 1 (Mirage, 1990/2009), TMNT: The Ultimate Collection Vol. 2 (IDW, 2018), a colorized version in TMNT: Book III (First Publishing, 1987), and TMNT: The Works Vol. 2 (IDW, 2013), as well as a remastered edition released by Waverly Press/Aardvark-Vanaheim in 2023.
  • The 2003 animated series episode 'Time Travails' and the 2012 series episode 'Turtles in Time' are both loosely based on this issue, though neither includes Cerebus.
  • A small printing distinction exists between editions: Renet's outfit appears blue in the first printing and red in the second.

Cast · 8 characters

Full credits

writer, artist, inker Kevin Eastman
writer, artist, inker Peter Laird
writer, artist, inker, letterer Dave Sim
artist, inker Gerhard
letterer Steve Lavigne
cover pencils, inks Kevin Eastman

Reprints

↩ Reprints Rion 2990 #1 (1986)

Reprinted in Turtlemania Special #1 (1986), Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #3 (1987), The Collected Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 (1990), Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Ultimate Collection #2 (2018), Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Color Classics #2 (2019), Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Collected Book #1, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Ultimate Collection #2, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Works #2

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